The Urly Bird

You want to make money in real estate but don’t quite know how, don’t have the money, credit, connections, experience. Well you are visiting the same marketplace where there are experienced REITs doing the same very thing that you are trying to do but you two aren’t connected yet to make money. You want more deals, more transactions and more money or are starting out with real estate so that you can get financially free or provide a return to your investors through flips, wholesaling, and buy and holds. There are lots of strategies.

The problem is that you aren’t connected with the right person for right now - the access that you need - to make money from real estate.

Another problem that you might be having is that you don’t know where to start. You don’t have access to a buyer, seller or property and don’t have the marketing system in place to get those assets that will help you make money with real estate. You don’t want to only rely on the MLS because you want to get direct access to the best - most competitive deals - that aren’t always listed! You also don’t want to rely on services that provide access to people that have already done transactions and may not be serious about transacting right now! Another problem that you are facing - if you have some experience - is that you can’t always trust the person that you are transacting or doing a deal with over the internet.

Access The Flock Real Estate Marketplace strives to provide you with access to the right seller or buyer algorithmically. There are already buyers and sellers being matched in Access The Flock Real Estate Marketplace.

To capitalize on this opportunity to make money in real estate you should start building your own marketing system to generate buyer and seller leads for yourself so that if you need them matched to close a deal, you can bring them to the marketplace and see if you get matched up and try to close a deal to make money. If you are already established, I recommend bringing 30 buyers and sellers to the market in the next month to see if you will be matched up in the marketplace to close a deal.

What Can You Do To Get A Buyer Or Seller?

Assuming that you do not have many resources, a marketing system, or a buyer or seller this is what you can do to get started as cheaply and easily as possible to make money in real estate virtually and online.

1. Start a blog on your own website
2. Create a seller landing page to capture leads
3. Create a buyer landing page to capture leads
4. Write a lot consistently on your blog to grow traffic to your landing pages
5. Put your sellers under contract to do a deal and prove that buyers are real - Know your client or buyer and seller
6. If you don’t have a match to flip, wholesale, then bring them to the real estate marketplace

Becoming a Real Estate Landlord

Buy from your own buyer leads from your website as mentioned above. I heard the best deals come from your own website. Or, if you have cash you save yourself as a buyer on Access The Flock Real Estate Marketplace and get access to sellers - deals and property!

How To Access A Buyer Or Seller On Access The Flock Real Estate Marketplace?

• Create an Account - Join the Flock
• Choose to Access a Buyer or Access a Seller
• If you want to access a buyer you fill in the seller form
• If you want to access a seller you fill in the buyer form
• If you don’t get a match, share the link on your blog and social media profiles to attract a match so that you can close a deal

Strategies On How To Make Money In Real Estate

• How to make money virtual wholesaling using Access The Flock Real Estate Marketplace
• Different real estate strategies to make money

What are the best ways you’ve found to make money in real estate?

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You’ve had some troubles with the off market real estate industry on the internet for a few past years and it hasn’t gone away.

Some of the same old problems persist where:

• People don’t trust each other
• They don’t know if their seller or buyer is real
• They think that their seller or buyer or client is real and don’t think or know whether the buyer or seller on the other side of the deal is real - so they don’t trust the person that they are dealing with
• There are too many people between the deals - called daisy chains - making it impossible to get in the middle and make a profit in any way possible because information can’t properly get passed from buyer to seller or to exchange information in a way that produces trust and a closed transaction
• There is outright fraudulent documents
• People will cut you out of the deal once they find out who your buyer or seller or client is and bypass you 
• There is confusion as to what is legal and in what jurisdiction 

Wouldn’t it be nice if there was something that guided these transactions between real estate professionals so that they closed? Like a real solution?

Wouldn’t it be nice if the rules of the off market real estate industry have changed.

Some possible new rules that I propose that came from most of your mouths could be a real solution.

Some of the rules we could follow include:

-Know your client before bringing them to the marketplace

-Build a reputation by getting feedback from your peers specifically about how well you close transactions in a central place for everyone to see

That would be it.

That would solve - probably - all of these problems!

What do you think would solve some possible problems you are facing in the off market real estate industry?

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Landlords and Asset Managers care about rents - and raising rents.

So, let’s talk about whether or not to raise rents.

I don’t think you can, because then you’ll drive your tenants out.

I think you can because you have to keep up with inflation - increasing prices of doing business - and repairs - so that your tenants stay there and happy! And keep paying you monthly or recurringly.

It depends if you are a large commercial REIT or a smaller residential landlord.

One of the key factors in raising rents in a commercial complex - I think - is that you can keep your anchor tenant to keep drawing visitors and other tenants to the buildings.

For smaller residential investors and REITs it’s important to keep the property up to standards - and at market levels - so that you can keep tenants.

Don’t bother raising rents because you are afraid of losing rents to tenant turnover. 

Don’t worry about that. Just keep tenants happy with a good property and raise rents regularly to support market conditions and not scare tenants away with a huge price increase.

There are details that you have to keep in mind when raising rents. Whether it is legal under your tenancy contract. Or if the property is rent controlled.

Something that you can do to keep tenants happier is have a clause stating that you can raise rents at smaller amounts more regularly - maybe a certain percentage annually or so - or try to raise rents at the end of the rental agreement when they are deciding when they will renew with your contract in the same place - with you!

So many investors don’t care about supplying tenants with solutions to their problems - like fixing things and making repairs. One solution is a price correction - dropping the rent to accommodate for repairs that need to be made. I don’t think that that is a great idea.

You have a brand to keep up - or a reputation. And you don’t want people saying that you aren’t taking good care of your tenants. Also, the building is your appreciating asset and it’s worth the money to repair and maintain it - ideally, or you probably should not have bought it!

Don’t be lazy - just raise rents!

Take care of your tenants.

What was the response from tenants when you raised rents?

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Did you know that building trust can actually get you real estate deals?!

Let me explain:

There are so many people that are not worth your time when dealing real estate online. This is according to your own mouth - my audience - the real estate consultants that have advised me on how to build the marketplace, so that there is more trust among everyone that uses it - so that you can actually close deals - faster than every 7 years or so.. Sorry.

I want there to be more trust between you.

It starts with allowing brokers to get to know you when negotiating.

When the representative party on the other side of the deal is first getting to know you they generally just found you online and don’t know much about you - I am assuming. Unless, you are big in your community and it is a local deal.

But online - doing deals remotely and virtually - it’s another story.

People get caught up in details such as:

• How far does this broker or client representative live from the deal they are toughing?
• Does their email address contain their website domain so they are more trustworthy
• Are they actually who they say they are?
• Does what they say on the phone mesh with how they follow up in email?
• Do they follow up at all?
• Did they vet that their buyer or seller is real.
• Do they keep telephone appointments?
• Do they often say sorry because they’ve been sick?

It’s sad.

It’s a time waster.

So how do you ‘circumvent’ these details and get people to trust you to close big deals and regular and small deals - all types of deals?

Consistency of message 

1. Save your website or blog on Access The Flock on your profile!
2. Blog regularly
3. Use social media
4. Use local marketing channels like direct mail
5. Answer your telephones consistently
6. Make sure that your buyers and sellers are real
7. Bring your buyers and sellers to Access The Flock Real Estate Marketplace.
8. Use the Urly Bird Grade voting system for feedback when you deal with someone in the marketplace - build your reputation.

What have you done to build trust online to close real estate deals that has worked?

Direct mail marketing for real estate can be tough.

I mean. You pick a target location - neighbourhood -and hope that you get some sellers. 

This is unless you purchase a list of distressed sellers that are your target market and hope that they need help or a buyer or your expertise to meet them with cash of some sorts - like a lender.

And even that can be tough because some lists might not work.. 

Some realtors base their entire career off of direct mail campaigns to get sellers and then do MLS and newspaper ads to get matched with buyers.

I think that the best long term way to get leads is to blog - do lead capture forms and rank in Google. It’s tough.

I think that the problem with direct mail marketing is that some people really don’t want to receive your flyer or envelope or letter in the mail and just throw it away.

I used to send a refrigerator magnet so that they’d remember me. I think it worked. Over the years, you accumulate enough homeowners with fridge magnets of you calling you - it’s kind of like a ranking in Google; It just accumulates and eventually you get your phone ringing - if you’re doing direct mail that is!

It’s good to become expert in your neighbourhood and direct mail is one way to do that because you get phone calls from your customers - sellers - and start to know what’s going on in the neighbourhood for prices and so forth that you can use to your advantage when running comps and becoming the true expert in your market.

Beat out other realtors and real estate investors, wholesalers or consultants hopefully and you dominate. It takes time though of repetitive messaging - but your phones can ring and you can do deals.

You can bring direct mail marketing leads to your local real estate investors association - REIA - and introduce yourself and that you have a seller to do a deal with or you can bring your sellers to Access The Flock Real Estate Marketplace and hope to get matched up with buyers in the neighbourhood or location and across the globe.

I think that direct mail can be a lucrative way to make a living in real estate. My only concern is that you are competing against other real estate investors, agents, wholesalers, and consultants for that same access to the sellers to do deals with. That means differentiation - you’ve got to differentiate your offering when you send an envelope or flyer in the mail so that you are memorable or different - especially different!

Good luck! 

Get creative and test market a small neighbourhood to get started!

There is so much fraud out there!

It might be you - it might not be you!

But there is so many fake deals being floated around on the internet. It seems real estate agents are the best at knowing their client because they are licensed - have to put the deal in the MLS and take drivers license to verify that they are.. ok.

It’s scary. And it can waste your time - years! Some people have wasted years - 7  years - on fake clients - buyers or sellers - whatever you want to call them that you are in the middle of putting together a deal on to make a lot of money - on the internet.

I think it’s tough and want to solve these problems - but you ultimately have to use your own discretion when determining whether a buyer or seller is real and right for you to represent and bring to a negotiation or to the marketplace.

When I say real I mean that they don’t forge documentation. It might look real, with the real names on it - but they might not be. It’s easy to get excited about a big commission or assignment fee if you are wholesaling.

In investments it’s good to interview your client to know what they are a good fit for before placing them with their investments.

In the marketplace, it’s good to know that the buyer or seller that you are bringing to meet other buyers and sellers or real estate agents and investors are real - with I.D., title or deed, and even possibly the much toughted bank statement proving funds in the bank that they are for real and serious. Otherwise, you can end up wasting a lot of time! - and everyone else’s. Not to mention committing a fraud and not get paid.

When I talked to a real estate agent this past week she said she does a lot a work verifying whether her clients are real and that not everybody does this - So you run into a lot of people on the other end of the deal that can’t prove that they are real when negotiating online wasting your time.

What have you done to know your client better?

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I think it’s fun playing Monopoly.

When I was a kid I played my first game of monopoly and was fascinated by trading money, getting the best property on the board and ensuring that the cash flowed or else you’d end up out of the game.

Access The Flock is a lot like playing Monopoly. When you use it regularly you end up with lots of trading partners - properties and cash buyers! 

You can see what everybody holds and make a deal.

I like to start out by searching the buyers or sellers list when I have a deal - or used to when I was researching how to setup the marketplace for everyone! That way you have a buyer or seller in the location where the person you are dealing with is looking and know there’s a deal. it’s a really exciting feeling when you feel like you can connect the people, the buyers with the sellers; It’s a lot like playing Monopoly!

But you know this - you do it all of the time!

There’s lots of buyers and sellers on Access The Flock.

I want you to make lots of money.

When you get a buyer or seller, bring them to the marketplace and see if they allow you to access the right buyer or seller in real time.

Then, you can close the deal - just like in Monopoly.

Have fun!

When was the last time that you played Monopoly?

Betas - in finance they are everything in the modern economy and trading - I think so anyways for investment making purposes and decisions.

So, why don’t more investors that invest in real estate use betas to size up their real estate investments?

I think that it’s because Rich Dad’s board game Cash Flow doesn’t include betas when making purchases and deal decisions. 

Cash flow is nice and all but is it worth the risk; The deal could blow up in your face - could you make more money elsewhere without the hassle?!

Only astute investors know the answers to those questions. And they use betas in finance to figure it out.

One paper argued the use of betas in real estate as real estate on a national level, in the US, is performing more similarly to stocks and bonds in that you can more use betas for calculating what rate of return you should be getting on your investments when purchasing and holding.

These are the real estate betas for different markets and asset types that can be used for calculating how much of a rate of return you should be getting on your cash when making an investment - otherwise invest in paper assets - or something else!

I encourage you to find your markets and assets and determine whether you are getting the right return for the beta of those assets!

"The paper concludes that the best way of estimating a private market risk premium for real estate in general within the overall capital markets is through the use of the NAREIT Equity Index.” 

This is the performance of property by asset type - like residential. With high end beta of about 1.5 for the riskiest of assets you should expect about a 10% rate of return on your cash.

Do you think that you can beat that rate of return on a consistent basis through investing in real estate or should you invest elsewhere? 

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Why do you look for discount value - how much a property or note is discounted from regular market value - and not the cash flow generated from the real estate via cap rate?

I don’t know - but I have a guess!

You are REITs and hedge funds and want to have enough spread to make money and provide yield to your shareholders when you flip your real estate to charities. That may be true - it may not be. But when I spoke and emailed one Acquisitions Manager for a REIT/hedge fund - that’s the impression he gave me when he was deciding whether he wanted to deal with me to do a deal and take the deal to due diligence after meeting the seller.

I just don’t know. I was taught in business school to look at cap rates and last night at the monthly Edmonton Real Estate Investors Association we were taught about investing in apartment buildings - it’s all about yield and cap rate - comparative to bonds.

Why do you look for discount value - like this deal is 70 cents on the dollar. No wait! This one is better it’s only 35 cents on the dollar. (I omitted discount value in the marketplace because it’s no longer a key metric used for matching.) I know wholesalers look for discounted property because they want to make a profit margin on their contracts - make a spread when they buy low from the seller and sell high to the buyer - but leave enough room that the end buyer can still make enough money rehabbing the property.

I think discount value is used for flipping real estate and cap rate is used for buy and hold situations.

Do you think that deals should have cap rate or discount value when first evaluating them?

Real estate agents are a dime a dozen. No offence to my email list - who are primarily composed of real estate agents and real estate investors. I mean that the market has low barriers to entry so there are a lot of them. They are still valuable - especially to me - and the general public!

Realtors have to find deals just like anyone else to make a living and a career out of real estate.

How Do Real Estate Agents Find Deals?

They:

• Focus on a smaller market to become the expert in the area
• Hang fliers on doors
• Send mailers or direct mail
• Tap their network/database of contacts/CRM or excel spreadsheet.

This is according to REALTORMag.

So what’s stopping real estate investors and wholesalers to find deals the same way that realtors do. Don’t they want to become the expert in the area and get access to below market value deals before anyone else so that they can make money?

I think that it boils down to professionalism. Let me explain. I read one post on how bad wholesalers are professionally relative to real estate agents. How come wholesalers get such a bad wrap? I met with a really professional wholesaler for lunch who is a coach he does so well. I do not think that all wholesalers are like him. I think that many wholesalers try to be gangster.. It’s all about the cash.. That’s cool but there is still professionalism: treating people with respect, building trust/rapport for deals etc. You know? 

I think that if you focus on your brand and reputation you could legitimately get better deals because you will be trusted in your target market. It takes consistency of message - but you can do it.

You Can Find Good Deals With Virtual Real Estate Investing Too

It takes time but:

• Set up a website capturing leads
• Turn your website into a hub
• Close the deals

With these tips, you can compete with any realtor in finding deals - and partner!

What do you think of my tips; Are they realistic?

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